What is your view on downvotes?

Unfortunately, downvotes are just like "dislikes" in social media. Love it or hate it, it has it's own place.

I do not like downvotes if they are abused. However, absent the ability for real moderators with the ability to moderate in HIVE, downvotes are a necessary evil.

They are useful ;)

downvote is not a bad thing.. same about upvote, its not a good thing. what is good or what is bad is the person who click which button.

It is a function of expressing the person towards something, although it is on the post, I believe most of the case it is addressed on the author.

Down votes are part of this system and they have to be. Imagine people uniting and making money just by voting each other out. I'm not talking cents, I'm talking dollars. AND imagine them doing it without sharing anything, just a few words and a $100 post. All the Trending pages are full of them. I'm not saying it would happen 100% of the time, but even the possibility would be frustrating. We would never see real quality posts.

I think probably they are needed, but when you receive them they are not so nice 😅

Mostly I think they are good for fighting spam and abusers, but for most people they arent necessary to be used that much, but I think the feature should still stay as voting should be possible both ways

One of my posts have been recently downvoted for no reason at all. It's regarding Splinterlands and the downvoters are not even part of the community. It's just makes no sense.

I was prejudiced against them, when I joined the hive I thought they shouldn't exist and all that, but over time we realize that their existence and function makes sense, because when there is an abuse of short posts, without purpose or doubtful content and guaranteed voting systems or profile networks are used to vote for each other and stuff, the DV helps a lot to equalize the rewards, because I think the premise that "effort = value" should apply, if the effort was minimal and the value too high, it makes sense to have the DV to correct that.

I think they are necessary to combat abuse and spam. The problem is when they are not used in a proportionate way or the person is penalised and not the content.

I don’t use them. If I see something that I don’t like simply go ahead and ignore it.

Negative votes should not exist.

It's important, Downvote keeps things right on track.. when someone cheats/spam or try to milk.. it make sense to use Downvote to protect ecosystem.

Other than that, unnecessary downvotes like based on opinion "I don't like what you just said" this doesn't make any sense and shouldn't encourage it imho.

Downvotes on Hive can be a bit discouraging, but they also help maintain quality content. It's important to remember that everyone has different perspectives.
Let's keep engaging with positivity and respect!

!WINE

I don't know exactly what to think. It is a kind of safeguard, say, to prevent spam and plagiarism, but lately, I have been following it and it seems that some people are using it for personal reckoning, which is not good at all. I never use downvotes.
I think that when a case like this comes up (like Marc-Allaria, the photographer who was accused of posting a photo somewhere other than Hive, or this last one with Uwelang where the personal fights moved from the discord to the downvotes) it needs to be changed somehow.
I think that in such cases there should be a body, made up of let's say prominent Hive members (and I don't mean whales), that would be above the Hivewatchers and then adjudicate whether the downvotes are justified or not.
But that is just my opinion.

Every social platform has a button of " don't like" in our case is downvotes.
Downvotes have many utilities. There are many reasons for a we need to hit a don't like button. I think even if it is something that hits your feelings it could be used the downvote bottom. It is a decentralized chain so in the same way that I can post anything I want, I need to know that if it is something very polemic can also get a downvote. In addition, it can be used as an abuse tool and reward equalization, those are subjective, for example, AI use. Some people don't agree, and it can be used as a bottom.
Being in a social tool like a hive the main source of income is the upvoting button. That should also be hit only when you like the content, and as @achim03 said in his post not even the "upvote" button is used well, so why do people complain about the DV button, it is our nature to complain about getting bad votes, but no one complains about getting unfair votes ( I am telling this but I also never complain about votes that I think that I didn't deserve, hehe)

The problem is not the negative votes, which are a tool like any other, but rather the abusive use made of them.

If those are from bots or a group of people, I think it's just about community haters like on the other media social and news. Sorry to sound harsh, but they are just a nuisance coming from people who shouldn't be alive. I just don't like people who like to make a problem for others just because they don't like them and precisely use the word "folks" like everyone thinks like that 😂. In my opinion, ignoring them is the best thing to do.
!ALIVE

If it's coming from a real human, then it'll be a good input for the author. At least, after they downvoted, they added a good critique comment. It'll be a good thing and it's something to learn for the authors.
!LUV

I really believe they should be used as intended. They are not meant to just be dislikes but rather guards against things like spam and plagiarism. That being said, and in an ideal world, they should be used sparingly if at all.

Most social media platforms allow downvotes on posts for reason people who disagree with the post should use it, but it never meant for cutting the poster's rewards. Here downvotes are used to cut the rewards for posts that don't meet certain so called guidelines. I think downvotes should affect the publisher's reputation and not the rewards, when other users see low reputation they are mostly avoid voting them in future.

Downvotes make sense as a way of indicating bad content. It's more an issue I think when people get into fights and start using voting as a way to try to punish people they don't like, less than the mechanism itself.

It depends 😀
I dont really like it and never used it. Recently I saw a spam comment under a post which was downvoted. I found that a good use case for downvotes.
I see a problem with automated downvotes and would suggest to allow downvotes only by hand.
Anyway if you are on Hive you have to deal with it.
!ALIVE

I think downvotes are very useful because they are a weapon of defense against scams and spam and against abusers.
If given after thorough verification it is always useful and it is a tool to educate and to give a second chance.
If given for personal revenge no and it becomes counterproductive to the ecosystem
Without downvotes Hive would be a jungle of spam and non-human posts

I think downvotes are part of a healthy ecosystem if used as what they are meant for (bad actors, spam, abuse). However, some downvotes can hurt users especially if they are done just because of so-called whale wars or something similar.

I have a distaste for downvotes because I have been wrongfully downvoting in the past, leaving me feeling upset with no recourse. Nonetheless, I acknowledge their necessity in the ecosystem. I simply wish for moderators to oversee downvotes to prevent any potential abuse.

Like them or hate them, they are a necessary check against people exploiting the rewards pool. Without them, people could circle jerk themselves to literally hundreds or even thousands of dollars in Hive, most of which would probably be sold into the market. While there are definitely some controversial uses at times, for the most part there needs to be a "stick" in this world to go along with the "carrot". It's just the world we live in.

Thank you very much for featuring my question into the mission. And it is very interesting to see the others' view on downvotes, and I think mostly are agree with the feature, but keeping it transparent and rightfully used is the most important thing, since it is very difficult to do so. Since we don't really have a strict guide of how things are accepted on hive.
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I think down votes have their place but I have also seen them abused. I have seen where a whale got an attitude at someone and gave some huge down votes that takes all the earnings away on every post they make. I have also seen hive watchers abuse their power, I get that you should never plagerize but to continue down votes on every post made weather there are infractions or not I don't think is fair.

I personally almost never down vote posts, if it's something I don't like I just move on. I do the same thing on social media, if I see something I don't like a just keep moving on to the next post.

Everyone should always be posting original content and quoting with credit given on anything that is copied. If you are copying and not giving full credit then by all means you deserve to get down voted, especially if you do it multiple times. You do get a warning from hive watchers before they black list you but once black listed good luck getting off of it.

I don't like downvotes but I do think they are a necessary evil. Otherwise, some of those bots and abusers would still be going on. That wouldn't be good for Hive in general but it also turns away real people too.

I had a few good friends who are no longer seen here. They weren't abusing the system. However, some big shots with huge power found his/her posts "not worthy of getting what those posts were getting ". They were in the downvote fights and eventually, good friends gave up.

What's so different from censorship??

You will have full ownership of your content and nobody can delete your account. But, big downvotes

• Will take you the rewards (if no rewards, why need to come here? We have Facebook for entertainment)

• Reduce your visibility markedly

• Others will stop interacting with your posts because of the fear of getting downvoted on our comments/posts too.

If don't find interest, ignore or block the user. why do you need to kill him/her?

#aliveandthriving

I'm torn about them. I understand their intended role and, in some cases, they prove necessary, as opposed to direct moderation (censor). On the emotional side, people will always like upvotes and hate downvotes and take them personally or blow them out of proportion when they are received. At the same time, downvotes are abused too, and since downvotes are free (at least a few) and upvotes are not, not many people jump to protect those unjustly becoming targets of downvote bullies. I would make them cost voting mana again, and maybe find a way to be rewarded as well somehow. But maybe I would do it with a DHF proposal, to be able to exclude from receiving rewards abusers of downvotes. Or to vote in/out the proposal as needed.

i understand the concept behind downvotes. But i don't like to use them.
The only time i have given downvotes on comments is to get the commentor's attention, which did not work though as there were no upvotes to cancel out :-)

Anyways, downvote is something that needs to be used to negate the users exploiting the system. Not to downvote as you don't like the post or the upvotes are too high.

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I think if used appropriately, it's fine. But if it is being abused, then it's not very nice. But I don't recall myself using it, except once when I started out on Hive - it was a misclick!

At hive, downvoting is a security measure against spam and plagiarism, which I think is very important. Of course, in some cases there is injustice with very severe punishments, which can result in the departure of hivers who added value to the community, as is the case with my friend @luizeba, who was discouraged from continuing on Hive due to the downvotes, even though he repented and corrected his mistakes.

I think it is a necessary evil, without it there is a high chance of many abuses occurring on blockchaim such as blatant buying of votes, groups voting among themselves, etc.

Downvotes are necessary to avoid abuse of the system and also to avoid negligent copies, however, we know that sometimes punishments or judgments can be severe and drive many people away from the hive, so the balance between punishment and failure must always exist, as the best The way to keep people in hive is to teach them not to make mistakes, many people don't make mistakes.

Downvotes are needed to combat abuse and spam. If there is a post that commits plagiarism and receives votes, downvotes are useful and necessary.

The problem is in the misuse of downvotes. When it is used simply in power struggles or because you don't like a content or you think it is too rewarded, in those uses I don't agree with dv.

While all is rosy on the upvotes, there is a much needed down votes to keep the community healthy and free of spam.