How would you do Marketing for Hive?
There is a lot of talk on X and other platforms about marketing Hive to a broader public and I would like to make a brainstorming with you about the subject:
How would you do marketing for Hive? I'm talking about measures outside of Hive and not on Hive. We know the issues about onboarding and retention. That's not the topic today. How would you proceed to bring as many people as possible to Hive?
Please write your answer as a comment below this post.
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Simple! I would hire Shakira to make a spite song for Hive.
a very make sense argument
That would be an awesome idea. Let's call her lol
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I think we should be displaying that HIVE is a good place to hang out... no need to think about website down, no plugin, there are communities inside hive... maybe those community should show people outside how fun and excited their activities are... and this is a good place, maybe not the best, but a very good place to learn and live on decentralization.
I am strongly disagree with what most people do... advertising that this is the best place to earn, you can get this big, bla bla bla... end up we are getting more scammers, plagiarist, and many new people are confuse seeing OG fighting for rewards pool. I know these all are debatable but from my POV, its kind of ineffective selling something based on something that are disputable and debatable.
This is a very good point. When there are things for free on the internet, it attracts the leaches and the scammers and it's not what we want. If we have a nice time on hive and we enjoy ourselves, I believe that others will join us without big marketing...
I 100% agree with you on this... I always say that the expectation of earning big money for free, or by doing the "job" is killing the fun on HIVE... I mean, people who understand HIVE as a social network, or hub, understand that it can be fun... The "earning potential" is just a bonus, the cherry on top of the cake... Not the MAIN thing...
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Word of mouth is the most effective way. :)
It's a slow but very efficient marketing method indeed :-)
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I don't think good places need to do much "advertising". If it is good, it will naturally attract people. I think also the focus on Hive is wrong and it should be more on the content creators and how to be able to better promote themselves and get more exposure and views outside of the Hive bubble. How to improve the SEO, searching and finding of content on Hive as a whole and briding the gap between web2 and web3. Such as someone outside of Hive leaving a comment on your blog like on wordpress and increasing the content views from people outside of Hive. The "impressions" your content can get on Twitter is far higher than on Hive and that is why people create content there instead of on Hive.
This is a point that I totally agree with it. When I remember what attracted people to SL it wasn't because the game was great but because you could make some money. I believe that if content creators could really earn well on hive, it would attract much more creators from web 2 platforms.
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To be honest, and I've mentioned it before, the best way to "market" HIVE is if the next big app launches here. To that end, we should perhaps focus on devs instead of "bloggers".
That's definitely true. There are very few quality devs on hive. The devs are where the money is I believe and this could also be hive but the DAO isn't really fullfiling this...
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I don't know much about marketing so I can't think of any special ideas. What is clear is that we have to do things different from what is being done because it is clear that they do not work.
I agree that we fail to attract a lot of new people lately. After the SL boom, not much fresh blood has been seen on the platform...
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I usually promote hive on your ideas without fear of losing your account, I think it's the best.
Of course there is also a detail, be careful when talking about monetization because people may think that money is easy but it doesn't come.
This issue with promoting the monetary side I found is that people often see it as a kind of scam and it rather repells people than attracts them.
There really is this danger, thinking it's a SCAM or some kind of pyramid scam, so you need to comment calmly and explain everything clearly.
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I would analyze how new users found out about Hive and allocate marketing resources accordingly. Focus on building products and dApps (games maybe) that resonate with users' needs, and, most importantly, avoid misleading marketing.
That's a good point. By trying to improve what works already we have the biggest chances to get more new users to hive.
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Building a place people want to be. If people are having a good time they will naturally bring others. Less focus on making money and more focus on building the products people want to use.
I agree that if we make hive great, people will come by themselves...
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Simple answer but hard to do.
Unite a seller community who knows how to use HIVE and make a place something like HOLA Supercenter. It doesn't need to be a big one. A public event or supermarket is already enough. That way people will know more about HIVE and they will use it to shop there.
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I like what the venezuelans are doing in promoting hbd as a way to pay in shops of a region. This kind of development is very promising in my opinion.
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My thoughts is to share in your community/pool of friends what's you have been doing with the Hive community, let them know what Hive do and then slowly onboard them.
That's rather difficult from own experience. But I believe it really depends in which part of the world you are living. If in a country earning a couple of dollars can change your life, then Hive will be seen quite quickly as a great way to earn some money. It's different for developped countries where they kind of laugh at you when you tell them that you get a couple of cents per post...
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I could say that I advertise Hive passively, which means that I have an Ecency referral link in my Twitter profile, email signature, and a few other web2 places, I regularly use such as Soundcloud and Bandcamp.
Leaving links to hive in signatures on other platforms is actually a very interesting way to go. I did that for other projects and I managed to get some referrals :-)
Yes, I get some referrals, also, but I would hardly call it active advertising :)
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Marketing outside of Hive to attract as many people as feasible should consist of techniques along with creating attractive content material on social media, taking part in relevant events and meetings, collaborating with influencers, and focused advertising on digital platforms. In addition, it would be important to cognizance on highlighting the unique advantages and opportunities that Hive gives, including decentralization and the ability to earn cryptocurrencies through actively participating inside the platform.
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These are all very good points. The translate that into action would be great.
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I am convinced that word of mouth is the best marketing. People stay where they are comfortable and comfortable. If they come to paradise, why would they leave? 😁
I agree with that 100% but it takes time to realize how nice hive is and many quit before realizing it :-)
You’re right, I am an example of that. I came to Hive, didn’t understand and left. Some months later I researched a little and made a plan for growing the account. Spoiler: it worked! 😁
I continue learning something new everyday and it’s awesome. ☺️
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Thank you! 🙏🤗
Guess as always, the answer exists out of different elements:
That's a very good point. On hive we actually can grow much faster as a group then as an individual. If we would work the same way to make projects evolve, I belive that we would reach much better results.
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For sure we would need to do some marketing with web2 tools, using X , YouTube and Instagram mainly. When there are some competitions to get hive or hbd I see only people inside hive participating, this marketing should target people outside! Also despite people displaying mugs and shirts, maybe there should be an official website hive.store.com or something like that where we can buy directly ( of course with the option of buying with hive but also using a regular credit card.
Thats very true. Such contests don't really work because why would someone from the outside want a token he has no idea about...
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I'm not much on marketing but I do share Hive with folks whenever I get the chance. I mention threads, Liketu (where people can share photos like Insta and can earn $$), and games like Splinterlands (for those I know who are into games). Unfortunately, no one has jumped in yet. There must be a better way to do it.
It's the same for me. That really doesn't work for me and when I start to explain why it's such a great place, I see even more question marks in their eyes :-)
Yeah. It baffles me how else to introduce Hive to others.
It was different for me when I first heard about Hive. Even without knowing how it works, I came and created an account, although it took me a long while before starting to create content, lol!
Liketu is a double edge sword... one side they share, as you said, a place to share photo like insta then earn $$$ , on the other side some people did that and got DV-ed... either for low quality, plagiarism, Identity thief or else perhaps simply because some disliked them
It is a given though that we should share our own photos and not plagiarize other people's work. But darn the DVs especially when it is done just because one doesn't like the content.
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Usually, I inform my closest circle about my income from Hive. Because they are unfamiliar with cryptocurrency, some people are skeptical while others are intrigued. But after observing my activity, someone made a hive account already. At Hive, hopefully, they will discover their passion.
Marketing by example is what I would call that and it can definitely work :-)
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I believe the product (Hive) itself is good and the reach isn't there because people do get intimidated by the prospect of even starting. I would suggest that to expand Hive's user base, implement a referral program where existing users earn incentives for introducing new members to the platform. Offer rewards such as exclusive features, discounts, or even cryptocurrency incentives for both the referrer and the new user upon their first successful engagement on Hive. By taking that first step with the engagement, I do think that new users will be more keen / willing to stay and continue using the platform after getting that taste of it! 😅
That's an idea that we are also cultivating. There needs to be an incentive for people to bring others to hive and also a place where new people are well introduced to the platform.
Yeah as long as people are getting invited and made aware of the platform, I'm quite sure many will be here to stay! 😊
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Thank you! 😊
I would focus on marketing the apps that people can use. I think the method of focusing on earning from blogging isn't working that well. So I would focus more on Splinterlands, threads, and other apps where there is a particular focus for people to use and show up.
I agree with you. It's easier to market an app than a blockchain as broad as hive. What we should figure out is to whom exactly we want to market hive...
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Ignoring main stream adoption, which I think is a far off goal, trying to get more quality projects to run on the chain. As a reasonably fast block processing chain with, essentially, no gas fees it should be a place people would want to bring block chain projects.
But, there's a lack of clear documentation and easy to find resources to build on-chain tools. The SEO is pretty poor as well. Trying to Google things related to Hive tends to give a lot of "Hive" results that aren't this block chain. So, I guess the thing to do would be to build better software development kits for various code bases to make it easier to work on Hive, try to entice projects that this is a good chain to run on, and then get people using Hive via those projects.
I agree with all that 100%. Many games are trying to take off on hive but they all have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to coding the whole stuff. Other blockchains offer much better tools. Also the issue with hive is that the content will be visible on plenty of front-ends without any canonical rules. This means that from a SEO point of view, google will neglect all the content on hive.
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Personally, I think the best way is via a community of like-minded individuals (much like how CTP started). A lot of the oldies are still around. It would be great to see young blood coming in now and then. I think it also helps if the community is able to hold meet ups and in person activities. #justmy2cents 😉 happy #thankfulThursday to all ✨
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CTP was a great example recruiting people in the affiliate marketing sector and bringing them to hive. Many are still around :-)
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Once we have a larger, consistently active team working on the Mental Health Initiative I'm running within my community, I'm going to start marketing it outside of Hive. It'll be good to have a complete, working system that could bring in users who could make use of the service being provided - free, anonymous (if chosen), censorship-resistant, basic mental health support.
Such ideas are a great way to go and you would market this specific niche instead of a whole blockchain.
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Very interesting question, honestly I'm not 100% sure of the 'best' way. There are many ways we can (and do) try. Word of mouth and web2 socials are the biggest. By having a variety of content and creators here we naturally appeal to many different users outside the ecosystem. There are however lots of 'issues' or flaws that need to be resolved to encourage more users to sign up, be active, and continue to be active. Basic things like account creation and the initial learning curve need to be addressed before we can fully utilize marketing to onboard.
I agree that the number of issues with imperfect infrastructure is quite big. In the long run marketing will only be as successful as it's easy for people to get started.
I was discussing this with Achim this morning... Believe me, the initial learning curve wasn't at all a problem when HIVE was on its ATH! Everyone took a few minutes more to learn to do it, as they were incentivized by the price!
It could be easier but look at all those meme coins on different chains... Despite being an issue, people do install Metamasks, Exodus, and other wallets just to buy their FIRST (stupid) memecoin... Without having ANY experience with BTC, or any other crypto...
I wouldn't give up on education about Web3 by paying the price of freedom and ownership of my data, just to make things "easier"...
Of course, if people are motivated to learn they will. The whole Hive system is a little different from most chains though. Do you think we should have lots of airdrop tokens and meme coins in the hope of drawing some of those...not willing-to-learn users?
Learning to use Hive and the ins and outs of everything socialfi is where the real learning curve comes in. Getting a wallet is easy enough (minus the fee for creation). But then what are these coin hunters going to do? There's no airdrops to hunt...And it's not like they bring any real value to the chain...except the little bit of #FOMO for a short time...
You are right, HIVE is different... If we would like to continue growing as a social network, we don't have to think about "coin hunters" (as you said), but rather focus on creating a better user experience for people interacting with each other...
I remember when @zakludick was in my #HHHLive show a week ago and said how he onboarded his family and closest friends to HIVE... After that, it's much easier to onboard the next friend as everyone is already here! It's like FB or IG, people don't go there just because... but because all their friends are there!
But, I am aware that it can be a long way to get there...
Regarding meme tokens and stuff, I just throw that as an example of how it's NOT that big deal to open an account and manage a wallet... I mean, it is, but not a mountain to climb... When you have a will to do it, you will do it :D
Airdrops are the current narrative, but they will not be a narrative forever... I would not bother chasing these things, but rather focus on long-term growth...
Yes, this is where the socialfi aspects of Hive come through! I believe it's the right direction for Hive to continue working in also, the airdrops/MEME tokens although bring some fomo don't bring any real long term prosperity. Now I just need to find some friends to onboard! (And hope they don't fall foul to any of the downvoting whales that like to scare newbies away)
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Maybe hire some huge marketer or celebrity to join Hive, just like how Raca token used Elon Musk's mother as the ambassador, but it would require some money, and the other downside is that we might not only attract a genuine user who really want to develop on Hive, but there will still a chance that we might also attract some scammer unfortunately.
You are right. It's quite tricky to employ somebody to spread the word. It can go in both directions...
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This is a difficult question 😂, I have already invited all the people close to me, and none of them stayed, even though I've talked about all the advantages of blockchaim. Today at least the Brazilian community is much more prepared, I think I would start by talking about Hive and that now we have a community focused on helping new members with the thousands of questions that will appear.
The brazilian community is doing a great job for the new users from brazil I believe. I see also many of this community here in Liotes. It means that they learned about Liotes within the brazil community which is very encouraging!
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i would mostly do by word of mouth (grsapevine effect). But i am not that good though :-)
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I know what you mean. My success rate is a flat zero percent lol
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I see some good suggestions in the comment section.
Well, my perspective about marketing is a bit different..
On X, we have hive official account.. I don't know who owns that but it could be used for marketing by engaging on X trending topics/ trending in crypto like other interns do.
Marketing is more like meme nowadays, I'd make funny comments and appear on discussions to be noticed if it was me.
Sometimes with fun you can reach more than with facts :-)
Yeah true!
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I think it's not easy, one way maybe is to engage people/friends that you know on non-Hive-related Discords or even just a face-to-face chat with friends about how Hive works.
It's not that easy to sell hive to others... I for one have no success at all with it :-)
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Thanks!
Honestly I think marketing hive is going to come from applications that run on top of it. The only way to really market hive itself outside of paying people for their content (which at some point might be phased out) is to bring developers on and target them. Target developers on why they would want to build on hive.
Things like that I feel would be FAR better off for promoting hive itself.
Outside of that building applications on top of hive social, gaming etc is how we are going to attract the masses to the platform but these applications need to be able to be self sufficient and bring value INTO hive and not constantly out of it.
The problem with most of the apps on hive is that they cather mainly to the people already on hive. It's a small world and it would be great to get some fresh blod and fresh ideas from the outside and maybe also some fresh money...
Big facts and then they use the hive money and HBD to cash out and fuel their project instead of brining any real value in. Hive has become a pool of extraction that goes for everything including the DHF and unless the ship starts to right it's course it's going to drive the price into the ground.
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Being very critical, as @palomap3 said, word of mouth is the best way to bring it, because in my opinion, massive marketing today on other social networks may even end up causing users to "change" the hive tag.
The question is, how many users are actually happy to be on HIVE? People unfortunately compare themselves and then I see two debates that few people discuss, namely, firstly, how many people compare their posts with others from people from the same country? (I've seen several people say: "they worked for hours to create a post and rarely got visibility, while other people got much greater engagement" and that's why they would give up on the hive.
While I also saw people who entered solely for the financial aspect, as @dewabrata said, many times people, whether through friends recommending them or through other social networks, the person comes with the hope of becoming rich and that is bad.
Furthermore, a game that could change the direction of the hive is splinterlands, with it I believe the hive could take off.
for similar reason, I support cryptocompany CEO and even have got a bit overinvested there... Because I believe Splinterlands needs some side kicks, some kick ass games... while only CC CEO who I think have some qualities which I think later it could reach an "ok" level, compared to other HIVE GAMES..
Look I like rising star game, but I am trying to be objective here... I have promoted that game to my friends and they slammed it badly mostly based on the visualization and most did not even bother to play due to it.
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Honestly, I would like to see 3-4 games like Splinterlands and then we could take off...
With rest, I agree with most of what you said... If we compare data from the past, the main "onboarding factor" was the HIVE price, and not shilling on Twitter and spamming other people...
People do compare with each other and everyone is subjective when comparing their own work with others... Hive is not perfect, but it is the current best social network based on the blockchain...
Yes, if we had more games we would strengthen the hive more, I believe that Holozing with @strawhat will be a hit, I've still been a bit away these last few weeks, the end of the year was tough. But I'm starting to post more frequently starting next week.
Yes, I totally agree that what most attracted players was the values, the higher it goes, the more people will come, but for that we need to improve/facilitate the posting system, votes, etc., many debates have brought great improvements to HIVE and we continue to improve, I also agree that today HIVE is the best blockchain-based social network
To be honest, I miss all the debates that we had in the past... People got more sensitive and can't stand discussions anymore... That's not good if we want to be a decentralized "society", discussions and dialogue are our main tools for improvement and growth... We can't allow gaslighting different opinions and views or pretending to see everything as perfect in our small bubble...
You and @achim03 do a good job engaging the Liotes family, but you said something real, nowadays people can't talk, without arguing, or trying to understand people's different point of view, we end up unfortunately and on several occasions , preferring to remain silent, when saying something and being judged and crucified
I have a nice video for this occasion... Maybe you will like it... ;)
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I remain convinced that our best marketing was when Splinterlands assets were mooning and everyone was creating posts showing off their rewards and how much the cards they won were valued on the market.
Have a relatively stable product, significant earnings and people excited about that. And no additional marketing is necessary.
Every other marketing for the right reasons will likely be met with a lot of mistrust and will be costly too.
That being said, awareness is important, so that when you say Hive or Splinterlands or Inleo, the audience already has been exposed to them before one way or another.
Philanthropy can help in certain cases, because it opens doors that are otherwise closed. And makes some people listen when they would otherwise not.
We need 5-10 apps like Splinterlands... Not necessarily games, they could be some other social media apps, or anything else that is useful for "normies"... It doesn't have to be crypto-related at all!
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hoy en dia muchas blockchain estan adaptando su infraestructura para poder ser multicadenas, puedes con una sola billetera acceder a cada tipo de red, no necesitas una nueva billetera, lo que hace sea muy facil acceder a diferentes entornos, claro ejemplo esta metamask por su sencilla funcion de uso a diferencia de Hive que aun tiene sus trabas, cuando es algo dificil de usar, la gente lo deja o le pone poca atencion.